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L/D/25/L/4 Mrs M Bird, Past Vice-President of the Channel Islands Occupation Society (Guernsey) and Ex President of the Woman's Institute delivering a speech entitled 'Life on the Domestic Front and Life in General during the Occupation' delivered to the Channel Islands Occupation Society (Jersey) and the Channel Islands Family History Society. Kept diaries during occupation which the talk is mainly based upon. Was a housewife and so had to cope with life at home. Talk includes references concerning demilitarisation and evacuation, dilemma of whether to go or stay with mixed messages given by the States, decided against going although her mother went splitting the family up, air raid, landing of Germans and her first impressions, the running of the island, agriculture in the island, buying of food in France, attempt to live normally, gradual worsening of conditions, church arrangements, beaches, cinemas, entertainment during the occupation-keeping up morale, transport-bicycles, buses, hospitals, schools-german lessons, deportation of Guernsey residents to the internment camps, press-censorship, proliferation of rumours, wirelesses and crystal sets, GUNS-Guernsey Underground News Sheet, Red Cross messages, dropping of leaflets, food, cooking and clothing, 'a housewife's nightmare'-rationing, bartering economy, improvisation of ingredients for recipes, methods of cooking, fuel and the difficulty of rationing, food-details of level of rationing with different foods, extracts from diary on the dishes she made, treatment by german soldiers, desperation near the end-eating of pets by germans, D-Day-tightening up of everything, arrival of SS Vega and the Red Cross parcels, stealing on the increase, Organisation Todt camp nearby, liberation day, reintroduction of mail service and the feelings of thankfulness at the close of occupation.
L/D/25/L/5 Dr A C Bishop talking about Dr Klüpfel, the german geologist who was conscripted to Jersey in August 1941, to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Klüpfel studied the geology of the island druring the occupation and assited the German forces in the siting and building of tunnels and strongpoints.His notebooks were discovered in the 1970s and much information were gained from theseat the Institute of Geological Sciences. Dr Klüpfel wrote predominately geology in notebooks but also scraps of military information. He was billeted in room 80 at the Grand Hotel. A number of different topics in the islands were investigated by him. Sand and gravel were needed for concrete and he made a surveys of beaches of the island to estimate how much sand and gravel could be taken. Coastal studies included most of beaches of the island and record very accurately the composition and size of gravel. Klüpfel visited most of the quarries in the island and wrote about the potential of each. He suggested possible sites for the Organisation Todt camps in the North of Island and investigated whether enough water would be available to house the OT workers. Early 42 first mention of the power station at Tesson Mill-needs discussed by Dr Klüpfel. Studied tunnels in the island.Especially involved in those of St Peter's Valley, Mushroom Tunnel, German Underground Hospital, Grands Vaux and St Aubin's tunnels. Lists firms involved in drilling in Channel Islands. Wrote reports on tunnels. Military installations sited according to military and not geological thoughts (bad quality of recording). Need for water at strongpoints and Klüpfel looked at the needs for different sites. Drainage problems of camps and strongpoints. 23rd April 1944 last dated entry. Unknown when he left the island. Next heard of in 1946 in post war correspondence. Bishop states he had a big affect on defences in Channel Islands. Questions and answers at close of speech. 21 September 1978
L/D/25/L/6 Patrick Bouchere talks about his newspaper collection, which he started collecting in 1975, to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. He mentions Items of interest within the collection and a summary of what was in the Evening Posts for 5 years. Talks of the condition of his newspapers and storage that they were kept within. Deterioration led to photocopies being made. Praise for Evening Posts, continuing to publish throughout almost the entire occupation. Going through years and picking out amusing, upsetting and interesting stories. These include that of Ellen Baker who collected 3000 cigarettes for HMS Jersey in 1939, story of people in internment camps including brother in law Michael Ginns, propaganda during the occupation through the Evening Post. Fires at Maison Charles, Bel Royal and St Ouen's Manor that the Germans helped to extinguish, burial of air force personnel during the occupation, signing of german orders, Graf von Schmettow, dwindling of number of pages in Evening Posts as a result of a lack of paper, weeklys returned soon after occupation, German orders, size of newspapers, exchange and mart columns. Talks of the changes in Jersey and lists names of companies that hadn't changed since the occupation, preparations for war, bombing by the Germans in Channel Islands, raising of income tax, closure of shops to take stock, price fixing by States, new pictorial stamps in Jersey for the first time, selling of salt and hot water in 1944, Granville Raid by the German soldiers from Jersey, events at the liberation, return of Francois Scornet's body to France, Red Cross Letters. Questions about collection of electric fires, cuttings of newspapers, printing of newspapers, collection of salt water, funerals, collectors of Evening Posts
L/D/25/L/9 2 copies of 'Deported' a BBC Radio Jersey programme to mark the 50th anniversary of the deportation of Channel Islanders presented by Beth Lloyd. Figures of numbers deported from the Channel Islands. Michael Ginns, president of the CIOS interviewed giving reasons for deportations, quotes from local residents about their first impressions of the deportation process, hearing in the Evening Post, being served deportation notices, preparing in a short time, putting businesses in order, packing, transportation to the harbour, people being checked by the doctor, details of 3 seperate deportations and difficulties with them, people being turned back as a result of the ships being full, homes of those being evacuated been broken into, turn out of population to see the islanders off, problems among the crowd against the Germans, experiences on the journey to the internment camps by boat to St Malo and by train to Germany, arriving in Biberach, description and experiences of Biberach Internment Camp, journey to and description of bad state of Wurzach, lack of privacy, difficulties in hygiene, allocation of rooms and mixture of people, Red Cross parcels, lack of clothes and shoes, health in the camp, single men sent to Laufen, Roy Skingle and other internees speak of their experiences, party of Guernsey residents came to Laufen from Dorsten, food situation, roll calls, recreation, entertainments, games, work, education, Pat Abernethy talks of problems in Wurzach, weakness of leadership, inspection by Protecting Powers, escapes, variety shows, concerts, dances, repatriation of the sick to England and the Channel Islands, liberation of Wurzach on April 28th 1945 by the French, liberation of Laufen by the Americans on May 4th 1945, deaths of the Channel Islanders in the internment camps and a list of those taking part in the programme. Advertisement for the deportation exhibition at the Jersey Museum with the Mayor of Bad Wurzach interviewed on the history between Jersey and the town and calling for the twinning of St Helier and Bad Wurzach, Michael Ginns and Joan Coles remembering helpfulness of residents and need for links with the town, interviewees remembering their visits back to Laufen 13 September 1992
L/D/25/L/10 Mr E J (Jack) de Ste Croix talks about life at the Jersey Electricity Company during the Occupation to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Introduction by the President of the CIOS. Tribute paid to F M Burrell for having guided the JEC throughout the occupation. Talks about the contact with German forces, difficulty in supplying electricity-cessation of service for public between Jan 25th-May 8th 1945, his first experience of working for Germans rewiring at Idaho, Five Mile Road, which had been commandeered by the military, the storm on 13th November 1940 causing severe damage to property across the island and necessitating work by the JEC, details of the German authorities in charge of the JEC, refusal of work for reasons laid down in the Hague Convention on the grounds that it would be aiding the Germans in the war effort and different reactions by the German officers. He discusses the farm wiring scheme in the late Summer of 1941, the contact with a Russian Organisation Todt worker, the use of derelict houses for extra supplies. He lists different places that he worked. Talks of manning companies emergency service which required staying after curfew. Run by Sydney Herbert Shortland who was stopped one night and beaten as due to a speech impediment he could not explain the reasons for breaking the curfew. Talks of entertainments run by the JEC keeping morale up during the occupation, sadnesswhen members of the company were killed. Early December 1944 became clear electricity supply coming to an end-occupation authorities decreed that the JEC would run power in Queen's Road for German consumption only-refusal by the JEC who withdrew their labour, leading to negotiations over final outcome-eventually run by Germans. Talks of 8th May when Queen's Road Power Station was handed back to JEC. Comments made by the President of the CIOS who also worked at the JEC about the confiscation of his curfew pass, taking of radio spares from a store, employees of the company making crystal for the radio sets, collecting of sea water. Questions about the rationing of electricity in certain districts, acts of sabotage on German parts, laying of mains, the power stations, Sydney Shortland, electricity meters in German bunkers, the emergency service, transportation of diesel from the Harbour to Queen's Road, electricity to Wests, the Forum and the Opera House, supply and type of cable used, the use of German engineer in a job requiring a n expert, St Peter's Valley Power Station, use of the meters and the finance of the JEC. 9 March 1988
L/D/25/L/15 1) Occupation Part 16: Escapes produced by Beth Lloyd made up of interviews of local people who were in Jersey during the Occupation. Subjects discussed include the escape of Denis Vibert to England in September 1941, tales of different escapes to France by islanders recounted by Eddie Le Corre, Basil Le Brun, Peter Crill, John Floyd, Roy Mourant and their subsequent experiences of interrogations by the Home Forces and arrival in England. 2) Half of the interview with Captain Ed Clarke, an American prisoner of war, talking about his escape with George Haas from the prisoner of war camp in Jersey helped to hide by Bill Bertram and sailing to France 3) Notice about the CIOS Review new issue that celebrates the 40th anniversary of liberation and an interview with Michael Ginns about his article on Operation Nestegg and investigations that took place after liberation 4) Occupation Part 9: From Finance to Farming the Island Keeps Going produced by Beth Lloyd made up of interviews of local people who were in Jersey during the Occupation. Subjects discussed include the occupation currency, depletion of stocks in shops, rationing being introduced, black market and bartering used, farmers being ordered what to grow, the harvest and the inspections made by the Germans, farmers hiding extras from the Germans, investigations into a fuel that would allow tractors to run on something other than petrol-charcoal used, crops that were grown, giving food to others 5) Part 17: D-Day and the Last Terrible Year produced by Beth Lloyd made up of interviews of local people who were in Jersey during the Occupation. Subjects discussed includes the realisation in Channel Islands that D-Day was taking place, aeroplanes going over the island, lack of fuel and food supplies, health in island worsening, Red Cross parcels and the arrival and unloading of the SS Vega, starvation of German soldiers and waiting for liberation. 1985
L/D/25/L/17 Raymond Falla OBE, the last surviving member of the States of Guernsey and a key member of the Controlling Commmittee, talking to the Channel Islands Occupation Society at St Clement's Parish Hall. Introduction by the President of the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Talks about preparations before the occupation, forming the Controlling Committee, being put in charge of charge of Agriculture and Horticulture, problems of glasshouses and inability to export tomato and flower crops to England, States taking over the glass houses, evacuating cattle from Alderney, changes in cropping plans and the lack of seeds in the island, request for a Purchasing Commission in France agreed by Germans, Jean Louis Jouault representing Jersey in France, arriving in Granville and setting up base, going around France purchasing items that were short in the Channel Islands and the difficulties involved, their experience in journeying around the country and the purchases they were involved in, difficulties with transportation and loading of goods, sharing of cargo between Jersey and Guernsey, having to pay everything in cash to pay everything in marks, anti-British propaganda seen in France, conditions in France, slaughtering of cattle in Granville described, thieving, tribute to Jean Louis Jouault and others that worked in Granville, recounts humorous experiences and stories from his time in France, run ins with the Germans, morale boosting buying of cosmetics for the ladies, making of soap for the Islands, working in slaughterhouse, what they did with their recreation time and visits to Jersey. Questions on whether Mr Falla kept a diary during the Occupation, trouble in getting petrol in France, what was put in glasshouses after tomatoes removed, Purchasing Commission after D-Day, the situation in Alderney, finance for purchasing, evacuation from Guernsey, distribution of food when in Guernsey, relationship with German soldiers, stealing of food by Germans, a television series Mr Falla involved in concerning the occupation, security in France and the French underground movement. 30 March 1978
L/D/25/L/18 Talk given by Michael Ginns to the Channel Islands Occupation Society (Guernsey) on Life at Wurzach Internment Camp 1942-1945. Introducation by the Channel Islands Occupation Society (Guernsey) President. Talk includes story behind why people deported, notice in the Evening Post, sorting of affairs, transportation to St Helier Harbour, treatment by Germans, ships used, how not everbody could fit on the boat, demonstrations on Mount Bingham, the journey and arrival at St Malo, train journey from St Malo to Biberach, conditions at Biberach, the splitting of single men over 16 going to Laufen and married couples with children and without went to Wurzach, journey to Wurzach and the condition that they found the building in, allocation of rooms, parades, the care of the camp passing from the military to the German police, rationing, red cross parcels every week from Christmas 1942 until February 1945, comparison with conditions in Chanel Islands, entertainments in camp, walks, lack of escapes because of presence of women and cildren, bartering with local civilians, relationships with guards, doctors, the increase of air raids, jobs in the camps, visits from the Protecting Powers, rumours of repatriation, post, births, deaths and health in the camp, the keeping together of families, his repatriation to Britain in April and the journey involved, the continued life of people in the camps and liberation, education for school children and the conditions that he thought were relatively good for a teenager in comparison to other occurrences during the second world war. Questions about number of Guernsey people at Wurzach, conditions at Wurzach, medical people at Wurzach, women guards, education at Wurzach, morale of internees, returning to Wurzach. Explanations of items that he took to the talk and showed to the audience. 4 March 1977
L/D/25/L/20 1) 'Talkback' on Radio Jersey about how the States are planning to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the liberation represented by Liberation Anniversary Committee Vice-President Don Filleul, Deputy Enid Quenault and Senator John Ellis. Subjects covered include why and how the 40th anniversary of the liberation is being celebrated, the thanksgiving ceremony to take place at Howard Davis Park, the build up to the celebrations, parades that may take place, people from the armed forces coming to celebrate, the aims of the celebrations, the attempt to get local people involved, reenactments to take place, soundbites from people on the street asking how they think the 40th anniversary of the Liberation should be celebrated, the hopes of the committee that members of the liberating forces would be able to attend, the danger of stirring up anti-German feeling, some suggestions for events and what they hope the celebrations can achieve. 2) Half of interview with Michael Ginns, President of the Channel Islands Occupation Society, by Beth Lloyd on 'Personal View' talking about his life with musical interludes. Starts mid way through talking about life at internment camp and subjects covered include walking outside of the camp, repatriation, liberation, his schooling after liberation, joining the army and his experiences at the time of the Korean War working with tanks, working at the Post Office since leaving the army, his hobbies-interest in transport service and the camera club and his work with the Channel Islands Occupation Society. 31 July 1983
L/D/25/L/22 Talk by Herbert de Gruchy, Customs Officer at the St Helier Harbour during the occupation, to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Subjects mentioned include his experiences in the royal navy before the war, moving back to Jersey and becoming a customs officer, being on duty the night before and the day of the evacuations, seeing the air raid on St Helier, the dropping of leaflets and white flags to be hung for the Germans, the arrival of the Germans, being sent to the Agricultural Department because of the lack of ships landing and his duties there, being called back to the Harbour to take up his post once again, defence around St Helier Harbour, experiences had with the germans whilst loading, unloading and transporting goods, his relationship with German soldiers, a storm and its effects at his home at 18, Coastlands, Greve d'Azette, the arrival of Organisation Todt workers, the attempts by the germans at stealing food, german warship coming in after being attacked and bodies being loaded off, unloading of live cattles and being arrested, taken to the Pomme d'Or and interrogated about stealing a cow, arrest of other workers on the Harbour, infestation of rats, his second arrest for stealing when he was found innocent once again, the assistance he was given to stop stealing, the railway in front of the Harbour Office, improvisation in making sugar beat into syrup, the deportations, anonymous informing letters in the Post Office, after the coming of D-Day there were no more ships and so was sent to check tobacco growing, arrival of the SS Vega, the boats to liberate the island and the first mailboat. Questions about the Russians POW, horses used for transportation, importation of French cattle, boats going to St Malo to help in the evacuation, railways and people that Mr de Gruchy knew. Announcements for the Channel Islands Occupation Society.
L/D/25/L/23 Talk by Willi Hagedorn, german naval signals officer, on the German raid of Granville to the Channel Islands Occupation Society [Guernsey]. Talk includes reference to the situation on the French coast in 1944 and the defences used by St Malo and the island of Cezembre, the surrender of St Malo but the maintenance of the post at Cezembre, the weapons on Cezembre, a mission to Cezembre to re-establish contact and givem them new supplies, the permission of Huffmeier to surrender Cezembre, the use of a different island as an observation post, the escape of 5 German POWS to this island and then to Jersey and Guernsey, Huffmeier asking the German soldiers if a raid on Granville would be possible, idea passed to Graf von Schmettow, the plan in full-the objective to take a coal ship and tow it back to the Channel Islands and to take American officers captive, the cancellation of the first raid in February 1945, second raid on Granville planned for the follwing month, the result of the raid-55 german prisoners rescued and a dozen American officers captured, cranes destroyed and a coal ship captured, Hagedorn's opinion why the operation was successful. Questions asked by the audience concerning whether an American ship was sunk, the American officers taken prisoner, street fighting in Granville, resistance, how the first went undetected, lack of reaction, a third raid that was planned, how many men got ashore, who was manning the lighthouse, where Hagedorn was during the two raids, where the ships left from, the amount of ships involved, whether anyone knew the proximity of the SHAEF Headquarters, the availability of aircraft for reconnaissance, how many radio stations there were in Guernsey, the different transmitters used by the german navy and army and equivalent stations in Jersey. Hagedorn continues to talk of a third raid carried out by the army on Cherbourg to blow up a railway bridge, leaving in April 1945, moving to Cherbourg to undertake the mission but failing to do so. Officer in command failed and so mission failed. Questions on how the troops were dressed, guns from Alderney firing on peninsula, vehicles guns were moved on, the location of a ship during the occupation and receiving messages from Berlin.
L/D/25/L/24 Talk by Willi Hagedorn, a german naval signals officer, concerning the island of Cezembre to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Introduction by the President of the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Talk covers the defence situation on the coast of France, the value of Cezembre and the weapons held at Cezembre, the defence of St Malo, lack of radio communication with Cezembre and uncertainty at its position, boasts sent out from Channel Islands to check situation, lack of supplies, situation on Cezembre, mission to provide supplies, propaganda drops by the American air force, the cyphering of messages, a doctor going to Cezembre, the shooting of a destroyer from Cezembre and the subsequent continuous shelling of the island, nothing left to defend-call for permission to surrender, attempt to evacuate the island, permission granted to surrender the island by Admiral Huffmeier and the subsequent confirmation by Berlin and the last action. Questions asked concerning the number of boats lost in a storm, about the rescue ships, strength of the garrison at Cezembre, the island of Cezembre now, the size of Cezembre, escapes from St Malo, the value of the island, the day of surrender, the different proficiencies of the army and navy cypher and wireless operators, when he thought the German cause was lost, feeling on the island at D-Day, radio systems used, listening in on the British messages, the story of mistaking barrage balloons for an attack force and the weapons situation on Alderney. Closing of the meeting. 8 April 1987
L/D/25/L/25 Talk by Dr Hill, a British prisoner of war during the second world war in Germany and a translator for the Nuremberg Trials, to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Talks about his background in languages, his experience as a prisoner of war, being examined by the intelligence corps to see how good his languages were, being sent to the British War Crimes Executive in Paris, in Paris was promoted and charged with going around Germany looking for documents to indict war criminals, starting in Hamburg, sending reports on the documents that were found, being sent to Nuremberg for the trials, living with the Germans, being asked to set up a translating and interpreting department to liaise with all the delegations, preparing for the trials, security in the courthouse, description of his team and the jobs they had to undertake, the skill of translating, going to the court room and describing the lay out of the court along with the procedures and translation, the treatment of defendants, the importance and difficulty of interpreting, social life in Nuremberg, jobs he undertook and the understanding of Nazi jargon, different countries opinions on the trials, the difficulties of the trial and books written about the trials. Questions about the books he just mentioned, how long the trials lasted, the verdicts reached, contact with and impressions of the war criminals, instigators of the war trials, defense strategies, views on pre-war Germany, personal views on trials, the problems of translation, choosing of the defense counsel, Japanese war criminals, the Dutch system, the Russians reactions, length the prosecution went to charge people, treatment of prisoners by the Russians, treatment of prisoners of war, difficulty in not being bias in translation, availability of the trials in hard copy, mention of the Channel Islands in the trials, feelings today about Germans and Japanese, making of sound recordings, showings of film in trial and the showing of remorse and who made the final judgement, . 4 December 1978
L/D/25/L/29 Three interviews 1) Recording of Harold Le Druillenec, the only British person to survive in Belsen, introducing the King's christmas broadcast after liberation had taken pace. Introduced by the man who chose him to make the speech, it includes references to his time in Belsen, his sister [Louisa Gould] and the thanks that the Channel Islands felt towards the Free World for restoring freedom. Interrupted before the finish. 2) Michael Ginns with Beth Lloyd-talking about his article about the Granville Raid by the Germans. Includes reasons why he wrote the article, the research he undertook, he talks about the raids themselves and the new things that appear in his article. 3) Interviews by Diane Smith of Eileen Le Sueur and John Bouchere, who lived in Jersey during the Occupation, intermingled with musical intervals of music from the 1940s. Subjects discussed include their reaction to Occupation beginning, what made people stay, their employment, how the Island changed physically over the years, lack of supplies, exchange and mart and bartering, fortifications being built, maintenance of the government, changes in home life, social life, listening to the radio, rationing, the relationship between German soldiers and children of Jersey, restrictions on the Jersey population including curfew and radios, the strictness of the Germans, the interrogation of John Bouchere, propaganda in the Island in newspapers and the cinema, country and town life, food, entertainments, concerts held in celebration of the arrival of Red Cross parcels, the arrest of Eileen Le Sueur for having propaganda leaflets, West's Cinema, a list of entertainers, danger on the island including air raids, minefields and being caught out after curfew, resistance in the island, what was missed most, radios, memories, positive aspects of the Occupation and Liberation Day.
L/D/25/L/30 1) Interview with Frank Keiller on the radio programme 'Conversation Piece' which includes musical interlude. Discusses being a teenager during the occupation, what it feels like to celebrate 40 years of liberation, his background, his reputation as a tearaway, problems at the deportations in which he was involved in riots and was arrested and court martialled but escaped deportation because of his age, his plan to escape from the island, the subsequent failure and his arrest by the Germans, his interrogation in the prison at Gloucester Street, the conditions in prison and his attempt to escape, hiding from the Germans for the rest of the occupation with a new identity, before the escape attempt helping at the hospital under Arthur Halliwell, Ray Osmont and Dr Darling, qualifying as a doctor and surgeon after the war, joining the RAF, his subsequent career in different countries, the stress of surgery, leaving the Royal Air Force, making a new civilian life, moving to Victoria in Australia, retirement plans, hobbies, feelings towards the Germans now and feelings about the government of the States of Jersey during the occupation. 2) Weather and traffic report. Stolen items-police report. Magazine section-new book '120 Years'-History of Jersey Swimming Club-compiled by John Faige explained to Beth Lloyd why club was founded in 1865, about Havre des Pas Swimming Pool, Jersey residents in international swimming and diving competitions in the past and photographs. Paul Fox returning to the island after working on a project for 10 weeks in Southern Chile with Operation Rally to build a bridge. Report on the reoccupation of St Luke's vicarage by homeless families. Report on the hill climb at Bouley Bay. Channel Islands Occupation Society have found in the east of the island an entrance that appears to be the start of a tunnel leading towards France. Michael Ginns explains how it was found, reasons it would have been dug, question of how far it may go, where it leads to. Public Works interest in tunnel expressed by Deputy Don Filleul expressing excitement over the find, possibilities of our own channel tunnel, possible conduit for water and the investigation to continue with a report ready for April 1st next year (April Fool's joke) May 1985
L/D/25/L/32 Talk to the Channel Islands Occupation Society by Frank Keiller about collaboration and resistance during the occupation. Discusses the Island during the occupation in terms of a prison, deals with criticism of occupation especially with Madeleine Bunting's book, talks about his background, his experience at a conference that made him confront his experiences, the need to talk about it, the need to write about personal stories and not just 'bricks and mortar' of occupation, the lack of recognition for those who resisted, the false emphasis by the media on collaboration and the lack of acceptance that resistance did take place, his viewd on the States during the occupation, what constitutes resistance, the differences in Jersey that made fighting resistance impossible, other forms of resistance that took place, what constitutes collaboration and cooperation, illegitimate births, black marketering, profiteering by farmers only happened on a small scale, things being blown out of proportion, what constitutes working for the enemy, the evil of informing, intelligence gathering groups common in Jersey, spreading of news, escapes, the possibility of trials after the occupation to put the matter of collaboration to bed, talks his life during the war and how the island should be proud of how the majority behaved. Questions about records that were opened early which accentuate the negative side of the occupation, books about the occupation, trying to forget the occupation after it had finished, collaboration, people helping escapees and the comparison of prisoner of war camps with Jersey. 21 January 1999
L/D/25/L/34 1) Talk by Stanhope Landick, school teacher from 1935, on education to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Introduction by the Channel Islands Occupation Society President. Talks about his time at St Ouen's Central School under Mr A A H Downerat the start of the occupation, moving to the Intermediate School in Brighton Road in September 1941, his memories of St Ouen including the lack of nourishment for the pupils, Mr Downer's decision to start teaching german, experience of the Germans, a father of a pupil being shot dead for being out after curfew and the execution fo Francois Scornet, question of teaching german, the problem of heating, health of pupils, sport, talks of pupils that he remembers that are prominent in island life, an article that he had written, the demilitarisation of the Channel Islands and the evacuation, the actions of the Bailiff, Alexander Coutanche, men of military agebeing examined, books about education during the occupation, the story of Louisa Gould and Harold Le Druillenec, the States being formed into the Superior Council, the Education Committee, the air raid and arrival of the Germans, memories of other people, soup taken around schools, selling of salt water, milk for children, fundraisers for the Children's Benefit Fund, the visit of Graf von Schmettow in 1965 and a visit to the graves at Howard Davis Park, how they felt about von Schmettow, a meeting with Alexander Coutanche in 1970, making german compulsory, Victoria College, members of the Education Committee, visits by german officers, prize giving, raising of the school leaving age to 15, number of people who were in education during the occupation , the ease of getting out of the island after the occupation but difficulty in getting back in and the confiscation of radios. Questions about the hostages that were taken by the Germans, those who taught german, school children's diet, a particular teacher, Victoria College, a poem he wrote about the SS Vega and the Red Cross. Dixie Landick then talks about his life, his job of translating for the Germans, being involved as a translator for Graf von Schmettow he came to Jersey in 1965 and was interviewed by Channel Television, explaining how the interview took place. He plays the interview in which Graf von Schmettow answers questions concerning why he became a soldier, his thoughts on the Nazi party, how he came to be in the Channel Islands, his expectations of the local population, slave workers working for Organisation Todt on the fortifications, deportations, the refusal of a surrender proposal, consequences of German victory and what made him decide to come back to the Channel Islands. 2) Noises from the working of a mill (?)-with photographs being taken.
L/D/25/L/35 Questions and answer session between Ted Larbalestier, a town ship pilot and the master of the SS Normand, the supply ship between Granville and the Channel Islands, and the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Answers questions on how he got the job as master, his crew including his first mate Silver Le Riche, how he became a pilot to guide ships into the St Helier Harbour, how much cargo was unloaded, the lay out of St Helier Harbour, when Germans took pilots on, who summoned him if he was wanted, whether he was onboard when a ship was attacked, the normal picking up and dropping off points, the passage through the rocks, lighthouses, memories of a particular barge, German naval ships, paddle steamers, what was used to put the pilots aboard, Captain Richmond-the Harbour Master, going around Gorey to get sand, towing in of barges, buoys in Gorey harbour, varieties of ships, the use of tugs, experiences in piloting, boom across the harbour entrance, cleaning up after liberation, raids in Granville, liberation boats, different tugs, the tug the Duke of Normandy, buoys, going to Pomme d'Or, German Harbour officials, pilots actions in the deportation and Michael Ginns' experience, the docking of cargo ships, pumping of petrol, list of ships with tanker licences, shipwrecks, inspections down the harbour, attacks on the harbour during the occupation, having to tow barges to Granville and once to St Malo with Silver Le Riche when they were mistakenly imprisoned, passes to go around Granville, experiences in Granville, executions of german soldiers, difficulties with mines, where and what was used for cable laying, the outpost at the Minquiers, fishing boats, railways down the harbour, the Chausey Islands and the running of the SS Normand. User copy available. 22 March 1984
L/D/25/L/36 Same recording as items R/03/C/7 and R/03/C/8 Norman Le Brocq, founder member of the Jersey Communist Party and former Deputy of the States of Jersey, talks to the Channel Islands Occupation Society about his occupation experiences. Introduction by the CIOS President. Talks about his personal situation at the start of the occupation, his decision not to be evacuated, his political ideas, becoming a methodist lay preacher, meeting Leslie Huelin, a member of the Australian Communist Party, in 1941, forming a discussion group that later became the Jersey Democratic Movement to talk about ideas for Jersey after the war, the formation and growth of the Jersey Communist Party, the recruitment of Warren Hobbs, names of young people that they had recruited, making sketches of German military installations, organising aid for escaped Ukrainian forced labourers, Mikhail Krohin, an escapee taught english by Mrs Metcalfe who acted as a distribution messenger, the acquirement of a printing duplicator to create illegal leaflets for the Jersey Democratic Movement, copying BBC news bulletins for camps, help they received, methods of obtaining supplies and identity cards, Dr McKinstry who helped them, the setting up of an OT Hospital being at Girl's College, contact between Ernest Perrée, a porter at the hospital and the Spanish workers who were mostly communists, the meeting between three spanish workers and three from the Jersey Communist Party, the passing of leaflets in the camps by the Spanish, the duplicator being hidden in a cottage in Sand Street, his wrongful sacking from the Jersey Gas Company for leaking information, working for the libraries and the George Hutt's bookshop and lending library in Broad Street, Feodor Burrij and Louisa Gould, a meeting with Paul Mullbach, a german soldier part of a group [part of or inspired by the Free Germany Movement] attempting to start a mutiny in the garrison, agreement to produce leaflets for him, being nominated as liaison with Mulbach and meeting in Burger's Bookshop in the Parade to hand over the leaflet to print, being helped by Rosalie Le Riche, Mr Le Brocq's soon to be wife, Mulbach's desertion and the cottage bought for him to live in, Mulbach's attempt to blow up the camp and plans for the mutiny being curtailed as the result of liberation. Questions asked about what happened to Paul Mulbach, the people involved in resistance movements that existed and Mr Holmes, a shopkeeper who was alleged to be a spy for both the Nazis and the Allies, Polish soldiers in the German army, the camp at the bottom of Jubilee Hill, known as Lager Immelman, the return of the forced worker, Mariam Polski (?) to the island after the occupation, Russian bishops, visit to Ukraine, the experiences of the German prisoners of war and forced labourers after the occupation, whether he's thinking of writing his memoirs, whether he was ever picked up by the Germans, he talks about a member of the feldgendarmerie, Billy Mace, who warned Louisa Gould a search was coming but she was unable to get everything out, the experience of Harold Le Druillenec and the efficiency of the Nazis. [Same recording as items R/03/C/7 and R/03/C/8] 13 April 1988
L/D/25/L/37 Interview of Frank Le Quesne by Fiona Spurr on Radio Jersey. Talking about Frank Le Quesne's grandfather Edward Le Quesne, who's diary entitled 'The Occupation of Jersey: Day by Day' was being published by La Haule Books. He talks about his first knowledge of the diary, the things that appeared in the diary including personal information and thoughts on the formation of the Superior Council during the war, why he decided to publish the diary and the encouragement he received from Michael Ginns, the fact that the diary was published unedited with compementary footnotes by Michael Ginns, his position in the Superior Council as head of the Department of Labour, his position towards the bailiff Alexander Coutanche, the transcription of the diary, the kind of person his grandfather was and his memories of him. Musical interlude with HMS Pinafore from the Pirates of Penzance being played as his father saw the show during the occupation and as Frank Le Quesne is the Chairman of the local Gilbert and Sullivan Society. Continues to talk about why his grandfather started writing the diary, an extract is quoted of his worst moment when the flag was lowered over Fort Regent and replaced by a white flag and then a German flag, he mentions a previous book about his life, the priorities of the Superior Council, some of the responsibilities of his grandfather, the uncertainty of the occupation, the difficulty in having to deal with the Germans on a daily basis and having to strike a balance between doing things for the good of the peopl and obeying the German's orders, being sentenced to prison towards the end of the war and his experience of the prison in Gloucester Street, his political views, being missed by the Germans as a contact, Baron von Ausfess' reaction to his arrest and release, his attempt to do the best for the people. Ron, a local who was a prisoner of war in Germany rings in and talks about the difficult position of the Bailiff and Edward Le Quesne. Frank Le Quesne discusses the point in the diary when the mood changes when waiting to be liberated and the arrival of the SS Vega. An extract from Christmas 1944 is giving prices of the black market and a comparison to the difficulties in other countries today is made. December 1999
L/D/25/L/38 Interview of Silver Le Riche, St Helier Harbour Pilot 1940-1945, by members of the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Talking about his experience as a pilot bringing boats into St Helier Harbour during the occupation. Subjects covered include the duties that he carried out, his refusal to pilot a boat that was carrying mines and his subsequent questioning at the Pomme d'Or, the boats that used to go out to meet ships, those that piloted during the occupation, how they received orders verbally at the Southampton Hotel, restrictions on movement, presence of german soldiers when they brought the boat in, going to St Malo and being put in prison, the recruitment of the crew of the SS Normand through the Harbour Office, Captain Sowden who skippered the boat, the overloading of ships, shipwrecks, Captain Bennett of the SS Spinel and his death in Guernsey, the biggest ship he brought in, the night the SS Schokland sank, what happened to the SS Robert Muller during the war, Ted Larbalestier, bringing the Lavada (?) in, whether the germans took their advice, how he crashed a damaged ship, the H49, was arrested and put in prison and interrogated for 7 days, reminiscences of german masters down at the harbour, a floating crane, sand runs to Gorey, the size of ships in St Aubin, the bombing of a german ship, air raids, being given german orders by Captain Richmond and going to the Grand Hotel with George Gill, Peter Guiton, Ted Larbalestier and Bob La Cloche, tug trips to Guernsey on the Duke of Normandy, the SS Normand, the position and types of buoys, driving the SS Normand and the captain after Silver Le Riche, passenger services to France, experiences on the SS Diamond, rescuing germans from a shipwreck and number of shipwrecks in the island, Bill Furzer and Captain Richmond's uniform, his fellow pilots, working on Peter Guiton's farm, liberation, the arrival of the SS Vega, they show him photographs of the occupation. He talks about treating with germans after the liberation. They identify the ships in the photos. Asked about aking photographs in Granville, who is alive today who worked at the harbour during the occupation, the most frightening experience during the occupation as a pilot when he had a shot fired at him, restrictions on pilots, buying rations in France, the Duke of Normandy, lights to guide boats into the harbour, a german ship hitting the Dog's Nest, bringing soldiers out of St Malo at the start of the occupation and seeing the loch gates being destroyed, the pilot in Granville, how busy Granville was and if they refused to bring military cargo back to Jersey, his memory of the deportations, the barges collecting sand at Gorey for building works, the arrival of the Russians, attempted rescue of a ship, being sent to the Pomme d'Or for being drunk, his time in prison in St Malo and in the Pomme d'Or for seven days, their uniforms, piloting ships into the harbour at liberation, the SS Vega, when and where the railway stopped and who else to interview.
L/D/25/L/39 Talk by Bob Le Sueur to the Channel Islands Occupation Society entitled 'Foreign Workers of the Organisation Todt'. Introduction by the CIOS President with notices. Talks about his friendship with a number of Spanish and Russian foreign workers. the lack of facts in official records and distortions post liberation, the need to look at the occupation objectively, how the Russians were treated as slaves but other national groups although forced were paid, how the spaniards came to be in Jersey after the Spanish Civil War, the relatively high wages that they received which led to inflation of prices on the black market, the worth of reichsmarks, the currency used in Jersey during the occupation, Spaniards having suits made for them, where the Spaniards worked in St Brelade and their camps on either side of Route Orange, Mr Le Sueur socialising with the spanish labourers, Spanish men who lived in Longfield Avenue in St Brelade, going to Brown's Café with the Spaniards, the rations received by the Russians, tells the story of a Ukrainian who became an adopted Spaniard in France and from then on moved around with them, the description of the arrival of the Russian slave labours, tells the story of a Russian he got to know and his journey to Jersey, the camp at the bottom of Jubilee Hill, the story of Feodor Burrij he was punished after attempting to escape and was then successful and lived out the occupation being sheltered by various locals such as Louisa Gould, who was deported for it, and a flat in town, Nazi racist policy, the brutality of the Soviet regime and Stalin's directive that no Russian should be taken as a POW, the deaths of the Russian labourers in Jersey, the account of Peter Bokatenko, a Russian POW who after liberation told of Russian's being killed and buried by the roadside, interrogations ater the war by Major Hargreaves and a colleague at the British Hotel and the fact that the slave labourers talked of murder but were unable to offer evidence of this relying on hearsay, Russian POWs after the occupation and the reaction at home, what happened to them after the occupation and the experience of a particular Russian POW. Questions asked on the attempts by the OT to find their escaped prisoners, the story of Mr and Mrs Woodhall who sheltered two russians in a flat above the soldatenheim at the Mayfair Hotel for 18 months and what happened to Feodor Burrij. Michael Ginns talks about the condition of Russians and how Bob Le Sueur was given an award by the Russians for his bravery. 13 October 1993
L/D/25/L/40 Recording from the BBC 1 South West TV broadcast entitled 'The Lonely War' with Bruce Parker, a former Guernsey resident, looking back at the occupation of the Channel Islands with people who experienced it. 1) Part 1: Battleships of Iron and Steel. Introduction to the islands, the reason that they were invaded and the realisation that they were defenceless. Subjects discussed include the decision to demilitarise the islands, the dilemma whether to be evacuated or not, the fact that the boat to Sark did not arrive, the evacuation of Alderney and Daphne Pope's decision to stay, the air raid on the harbours and the arrival of the Germans, newspapers printing german orders, the first impression of german soldiers, the situation in Sark as recounted by Dame Sybil Hathaway, restrictions being introduced, Raymond Falla, the President of the Agriculture Department and a member of the Controlling Committee telling of the job of the government in Guernsey, the experience of Frank Falla, a journalist on the Guernsey Star newspaper, resistance in the islands, the relationship with the german soldiers, Jerry Bags, the sending of Hubert Nicolle to Guernsey on an intelligence gathering raid and later raids, the execution of Francois Scornet, escapes from the islands, trying to get supplies, entertainments the confiscation of radios and the secret listening to the BBC and disseminating information, the sinking of HMS Charybdis and HMS Limbourne prompting thousands to go to the funerals, the deportations and the internment camps, the terrible conditions of workers brought in by the Organisation Todt, the arrival of the D-Day and the expected liberation which took a year to actually occur. 2) Part 2: Our Dear Channel Islands. From 1944 the increase of hardship as a result of being cut off from mainland Europe as well as Britain. Subjects discussed include Alderney and the exoeriences of Gordon Prigent, a Jerseyman who had been sent to work on the island and Daphne Pope, who stayed on the island, their relationships with the Germans, the conditions in the Organisation Todt camps in Alderney, the death of Daphne Pope's 2 year old son, Gordon Prigent being caught listening to the BBC, being put in the concentration camp and having to cope with the conditions, a report on HMS Rodney's attack on Alderney, Pope making friends with German soldiers and the question of collaboration, the difficulty of rationing and having to improvise for food and fuel, worsening health of old people as witnessed by Pearl Regan, the running out of medication and the onset of famine and disease, red cross messages, red cross parcels arriving with the SS Vega, Harold Le Druillenec's memories of deportation and liberation at Belsen camp, the celebration of liberation on the islands, an extract of Churchill's speech, a contemporary report by the BBC on the surrender of the German forces, Rex Ferbrache, a Guernseyman, being welcomed home, the disarming of German troops and being shipped out as POWs, investigations into the events in Alderney during the occupation and punishment, collaboration, the royal visit, rehabilitation and the effect occupation had on islanders. 27 June 1980 -
4 July 1980
L/D/25/L/42 BBC Radio Jersey-Occupation Tapes. Told by the people who lived through it produced by Beth Lloyd. 1) Part 1: Preparing for the Inevitable. Alexander Coutanche talking about the surprise in the island when it was realised the island was not going to be defended and the evacuation was offered to the public. Eye witnesses talking about the panic of evacuation and the dilemma of whether to go or not, queuing to register, worry that the island was to be occupied, putting down of pets, Lord Coutanche being told to stay at his post and simplify the machinery of government, the potential blowing up of public utilities and the air raid on the island. 2) Part 2: The Germans Arrive. Eye witness accounts on seeing German planes flying low over the island and landing at the airport to begin the occupation, sending a message to the bailiff at the airport, meeting the germans for the first time, putting out white flags, demanding surrender, handing over the island, removal of the Union Jack from Fort Regent, BBC radio report on the start of the occupation, first impressions of the soldiers, germans buying food from the shops and the beginning of the paper war. 3) Part 3: Curbs on personal freedom. German orders being read out. Eye witnesses remember the losing of freedom, restrictions on vehicles, use of money paid for comandeered goods on essential supplies from France, orders against the use of coastal areas, changing side of the road to drive on, introduction and the experience of the curfew, life at the Evening Post, permits and other regulations. 4) Part 4: Food or the Lack of It. Poem on hunger. Eye witnesses talking about difficulty of lack of food and the improvisations with food, difficulty of feeding baby, difference between town and country people, suffering of women from malnutrition, children not knowing what food looked like, what people did to get by, food as subject of discussion, problem of lack of sugar and salt, use of potato flour, eating of seaweed, different methods of cooking and fuel, soup kitchens, bartering, farmers trying to get extra meat, getting extra eggs from chickens and keeping rabbits 5) Part 5: The wireless-Jersey's link with the outside world. Report by the BBC. Michael Ginns talking about eventual confiscation of radios. Eye witness accounts of v-signs at Rouge Bouillon, patrolling of district by islanders, confiscation and storage of radios, taking of radios from the parish hall, keeping of radios on threat of death, use of crystal radios sets, listening to the news, spreading of newsheets, the threat of being caught with radios and listening to tunes that had not been heard before the occupation 6) Part 6: Through the Eyes of a Child. Eye witness accounts of children and teenagers suffering a great deal, the fun children had, being hungry and cold, being without parents, relationships with german soldiers, schools continuing, difficulty of shortages of uniform, german lessons, soup kitchens, drilling on Victoria College playing fields, playing of sports, the Caerarean Tennis Club, riding on the german railway, mischief children got up to and scavenging for supplies. See R/06/2.
L/D/25/L/43 L/D/25/L/43 and R/06/3 are the same entry. BBC Radio Jersey-Occupation Tapes. Told by the people who lived through it produced by Beth Lloyd. 1) Part 7: Deportation. BBC Report on the deportations from the Channel Islands. Alexander Coutanche's difficulty in having to accept the order. Eye witnesses reports of discovering the order for the deportations in the Evening Post, discovery that some deportee's houses being looted, preparations for deportation, being served deportation notices, deciding what to take, going to the Weighbridge, people being turned back because the ships were full, the crowd singing the ships off, the journey to St Malo, fighting at the third deportation leading to arrests. 2) Part 8: Not a Lot of Anything. Eye witnesses talking about the lack of essential supplies such as soap, a great shortage of drugs and medicines by Dr John Lewis and others, lack of clothes, shoes and the need to mend things, improvisation with clothes, bartering economy, wood collecting, what was used for fuel and reusing razor blades. 3) Part 9: From Finance to Farming, The Island Keeps Going. A BBC Report on the currency used in the island. Eye witness accounts on the lack of english currency and the use of reichsmarks, the conversion necessary for records kept in banks and auction houses, the creation of new notes by Edmund Blampied, stocks in the shops diminshing leading to rationing control, the black market, exchange and mart in the Evening Post, farmer's experience of being told what to grow, harvesting and the inspections made by the Germans, farmers hiding extras from the Germans, investigations into a fuel that would allow tractors to run on something other than petrol, getting by, crops that were grown and giving food to others. 4) Part 10: There's Good and Bad in all Races. Eye witnesses talking about collaborators, Jerry Bags, informers, the actions of the Post Office to destroy anonymous denunciation letters or warn those who had been denounced, searches by german soldiers to follow up anonymous letters, relationships with and attitudes of the german soldiers (Poor sound quality) 5) Part 11: Government and God, How the States and the Church Survived. Eye witnesses talking about dissatisfaction with the local authorities, the difficulties faced by the bailiff Alexander Coutanche, confirming legislation in Jersey, rectors and Jurats members of the States, meetings of the States, rectors remaining in the parishes and services continuing, Canon Cohu being taken by the Germans for passing on the news from the radio, praying for the men who were fighting, banning of the Salvation Army and Jehovah Witnesses. 6) Part 12: Brushes with the German Authorities. Eye witnesses talking about being interrogated at Silvertide, experiences of confrontations with the german soldiers, being arrested and beaten, court martials and trials of local residents, listening to the radio and experiences in the prison at Gloucester Street. L/D/25/L/43 and R/06/3 are the same entry.
L/D/25/L/44 Occupation-BBC Radio Jersey tape. The story of the occupation of Jersey during World War 2 told by the people who lived through it produced by Beth Lloyd. 1) Part 13: The Todt Organisation and their Russian Slave Labourers. Eye witnesses talking about the background of the Organisation Todt, the arrival of the Russians on the island, the condition they were in, the brutality of their overseers, begging and stealing food, concentration camps, the Jersey Communist Party and other people giving shelter, food, clothes, false papers and english lessons with Mrs Metcalfe to escaped prisoners, the story of Louisa Gould, Harold Le Druillenec and Feodor Burrij and the experience of other residents who harboured escapees. 2) Part 14: Entertainment. Eye witnesses talking about the difficulties of the first show during the occupation put on by the Jersey Amateur Dramatics Club, cinemas and the films that were shown, variety entertainment at the Opera House, West's Cinema and out in the parishes, finding musicians, public dances, the Amateur Variety Band, the Green Room Club productions including pantomimes, easter productions and shows, improvisations with costumes and scenery and censorship of the shows. 3) Part 15: We Are At War. Eye witness accounts of feelings of isolation, seeing and hearing British and German aeroplanes, feeling and seeing bombing raids on the coast of France, leaflet raids, members of the royal air force being taken as prisoners of war, commando raid on Egypt, sabotage, the v sign campaign, resistance and reprisals, youth groups against the Germans, the British Patriots group and Norman Le Brocq and Leslie Huelin working with the Free Germany Movement represented by Paul Muelbach calling for a mutiny in the garrison. 4) Occupation Part 16: Escapes produced by Beth Lloyd made up of interviews of local people who were in Jersey during the Occupation. Subjects discussed include the escape of Denis Vibert to England in September 1941, tales of different escapes to France by islanders recounted by Eddie Le Corre, Basil Le Brun, Peter Crill, John Floyd, Roy Mourant and their subsequent experiences of interrogations by the Home Forces and arrival in England. 5) Part 17: D-Day and the Last Terrible Year. Eye witnesses talking about the realisation that D-Day was taking place, aeroplanes going over the island, lack of fuel and food supplies, health in island worsening, Red Cross parcels, the arrival and unloading of the SS Vega, starvation of German soldiers and waiting for liberation. 6) Part 18: Liberation. Eye witnesses including the bailiff talking about the change in the high command of the german administration and listening to Winston Churchill's speech, release of political prisoners, celebrations, surrender of Germans and arrival of royal navy officers. See R/06/4.
L/D/25/L/45 Occupation-BBC Radio Jersey tape. The story of the occupation of Jersey during World War 2 told by the people who lived through it produced by Beth Lloyd. 1) Part 1: Preparing for the Inevitable. Alexander Coutanche talking about the surprise in the island when it was realised the island was not going to be defended and the evacuation was offered to the public. Eye witnesses talking about the panic of evacuation and the dilemma of whether to go or not, queuing to register, worry that the island was to be occupied, putting down of pets, Lord Coutanche being told to stay at his post and simplify the machinery of government, the potential blowing up of public utilities and the air raid on the island. 2) Part 2: The Germans Arrive. Eye witness accounts on seeing German planes flying low over the island and landing at the airport to begin the occupation, sending a message to the bailiff at the airport, meeting the germans for the first time, putting out white flags, demanding surrender, handing over the island, removal of the Union Jack from Fort Regent, BBC radio report on the start of the occupation, first impressions of the soldiers, germans buying food from the shops and the beginning of the paper war. 3) Part 3: Curbs on personal freedom. German orders being read out. Eye witnesses remember the losing of freedom, restrictions on vehicles, use of money paid for comandeered goods on essential supplies from France, orders against the use of coastal areas, changing side of the road to drive on, introduction and the experience of the curfew, life at the Evening Post, permits and other regulations. 4) Part 4: Food or the Lack of It. Poem on hunger. Eye witnesses talking about difficulty of lack of food and the improvisations with food, difficulty of feeding baby, difference between town and country people, suffering of women from malnutrition, children not knowing what food looked like, what people did to get by, food as subject of discussion, problem of lack of sugar and salt, use of potato flour, eating of seaweed, different methods of cooking and fuel, soup kitchens, bartering, farmers trying to get extra meat, getting extra eggs from chickens and keeping rabbits
L/D/25/L/46 Occupation-BBC Radio Jersey tape. The story of the occupation of Jersey during World War 2 told by the people who lived through it produced by Beth Lloyd. 1) Part 5: The wireless-Jersey's link with the outside world. Report by the BBC. Michael Ginns talking about eventual confiscation of radios. Eye witness accounts of v-signs at Rouge Bouillon, patrolling of district by islanders, confiscation and storage of radios, taking of radios from the parish hall, keeping of radios on threat of death, use of crystal radios sets, listening to the news, spreading of newsheets, the threat of being caught with radios and listening to tunes that had not been heard before the occupation 2) Part 6: Through the Eyes of a Child. Eye witness accounts of children and teenagers suffering a great deal, the fun children had, being hungry and cold, being without parents, relationships with german soldiers, schools continuing, difficulty of shortages of uniform, german lessons, soup kitchens, drilling on Victoria College playing fields, playing of sports, the Caerarean Tennis Club, riding on the german railway, mischief children got up to and scavenging for supplies.BBC Radio Jersey-Occupation Tapes. Told by the people who lived through it produced by Beth Lloyd. 3) Part 7: Deportation. BBC Report on the deportations from the Channel Islands. Alexander Coutanche's difficulty in having to accept the order. Eye witnesses reports of discovering the order for the deportations in the Evening Post, discovery that some deportee's houses being looted, preparations for deportation, being served deportation notices, deciding what to take, going to the Weighbridge, people being turned back because the ships were full, the crowd singing the ships off, the journey to St Malo, fighting at the third deportation leading to arrests. 4) Part 8: Not a Lot of Anything. Eye witnesses talking about the lack of essential supplies such as soap, a great shortage of drugs and medicines by Dr John Lewis and others, lack of clothes, shoes and the need to mend things, improvisation with clothes, bartering economy, wood collecting, what was used for fuel and reusing razor blades.
L/D/25/L/47 Occupation-BBC Radio Jersey tape. The story of the occupation of Jersey during World War 2 told by the people who lived through it produced by Beth Lloyd. 1) Part 15: We Are At War. Eye witness accounts of feelings of isolation, seeing and hearing British and German aeroplanes, feeling and seeing bombing raids on the coast of France, leaflet raids, members of the royal air force being taken as prisoners of war, commando raid on Egypt, sabotage, the v sign campaign, resistance and reprisals, youth groups against the Germans, the British Patriots group and Norman Le Brocq and Leslie Huelin working with the Free Germany Movement represented by Paul Muelbach calling for a mutiny in the garrison. 2) Part 10: There's Good and Bad in all Races. Eye witnesses talking about collaborators, Jerry Bags, informers, the actions of the Post Office to destroy anonymous denunciation letters or warn those who had been denounced, searches by german soldiers to follow up anonymous letters, relationships with and attitudes of the german soldiers. 3) Part 11: Government and God, How the States and the Church Survived. Eye witnesses talking about dissatisfaction with the local authorities, the difficulties faced by the bailiff Alexander Coutanche, confirming legislation in Jersey, rectors and Jurats members of the States, meetings of the States, rectors remaining in the parishes and services continuing, Canon Cohu being taken by the Germans for passing on the news from the radio, praying for the men who were fighting, banning of the Salvation Army and Jehovah Witnesses. 4) Part 12: Brushes with the German Authorities. Eye witnesses talking about being interrogated at Silvertide, experiences of confrontations with the german soldiers, being arrested and beaten, court martials and trials of local residents, listening to the radio and experiences in the prison at Gloucester Street. 5) Part 13: The Todt Organisation and their Russian Slave Labourers. Eye witnesses talking about the background of the Organisation Todt, the arrival of the Russians on the island, the condition they were in, the brutality of their overseers, begging and stealing food, concentration camps, the Jersey Communist Party and other people giving shelter, food, clothes, false papers and english lessons with Mrs Metcalfe to escaped prisoners, the story of Louisa Gould, Harold Le Druillenec and Feodor Burrij and the experience of other residents who harboured escapees. 6) Part 14: Entertainment. Eye witnesses talking about the difficulties of the first show during the occupation put on by the Jersey Amateur Dramatics Club, cinemas and the films that were shown, variety entertainment at the Opera House, West's Cinema and out in the parishes, finding musicians, public dances, the Amateur Variety Band, the Green Room Club productions including pantomimes, easter productions and shows, improvisations with costumes and scenery and censorship of the shows.
L/D/25/L/49 Talk by Dr Raymond Osmont of his experiences as a doctor at the General Hospital during the occupation to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Talk includes references to his return to island before being qualified and Dr McKinstry arranging for him to work at the hospital to gain experience, Dr Darling who he lived with and taught him about clinical medicine, learning about procedures and surgical instruments, the effect of the occupation on the hospital with many nurses evacuating and the matron Miss Miller and later Miss Carter heading the team, a recruitment campaign to bring new nursing staff in, some of the medical staff of the hospital including Dr Arthur Halliwell, Dr John Hanna, Mr Arnold Ferguson, Dr Warrington, Dr Blampied, Dr Wood and the dentist Mr Joe Price, the GPs of the island, the reorganisation of the wards after being taken over by the Germans, the maternity wing transferring to the Dispensary with Dr John Lewis being put in charge, the geriatric ward on the top floor under the leadership of Sister Renoir, the increase in the death rates on the island due to lack of drugs, food and heating, increase in tuberculosis, the treatment of Miss Ivy Forster the sister of Louisa Gould and Harold Le Druillenec, Elise Floyd helping prisoners' families meet with them in the physiotherapy department, the casualty and outpatient departments under Dr Darling, a fracture clinic run by Dr Halliwell on a saturday morning, the pathology lab under Dr McKinstry who looked after public health and Overdale Hospital, the increase in epidemics during the occupation, the number of cases of diptheria, whooping cough and other diseases, vaccinations, foreign workers bringing in diseases, a house in Grands Vaux being used as a tuberculosis sanotorium, the death of Arnold Ferguson, the isolation wards in the hospital who dealt with the psychiatric patients, a German air force doctor who used to smuggle small quantities of drugs from Germany for Dr McKinstry, the height and weight of children at this time, the improvement in children's teeth, the crisis year of 1944 where supplies of insulin, anaesthetics and fuel were getting low, supplies being brought in from France but a great deal being stolen on the way to the island, all supplies ceasing from D-Day to the arrival of the SS Vega leading to the death of 14 diabetics, the running out of anaesthetics, tar being used as a fuel in place of coal, the problem of running out of x ray films,a lack of variety of drugs and the drugs used, a show put on by the hospital staff to keep morale up, the senior pharmacist Snowdon Amy, the different medicines used for different diseases, the arrival of penicillin on the SS Vega and the treatment of the prostitutes used by the german soldiers for venereal diseases. 11 March 1987
L/D/25/L/52 Talk by Gordon Prigent, a prisoner in the SS camp in Alderney during the occupation, to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. Introduction and announcements by Michael Ginns. Talks about being put in the camp for being an undesirable for refusing to work for ther Germans, being sent to an OT farm in Alderney, being transferred to the soldatenheim to scrub floors, being caught listening to the news and as punishment being sent back to the OT farm, refused to work at the farm and was marched to the SS Camp Nordeney, put to work on the land, different manual works listed, length of the days growing as the days became longer, digging slip trenches around the bay after D-Day, preparing the food at the soldatenheim, digging potatoes, collecting food from Fort Albert dungeons and delivering it, stealing some of the food to survive, the food situation, working in the bakehouse, illness amongst prisoners, the OT camp commander, beatings on prisoners by the german soldiers, Russians being so hungry that they killed a dog for food and were shot as punishment, his condition since the end of the war, bombing of the soldatenheim, evacuation from the island to France but having to turn back because og the amount of ships lost, being transported to Guernsey and staying at the hospital and then onto Jersey, marched to Fort Regent, some prisoners being transported to France but boats lost so he remained in Jersey, reporting at Victoria College and being given a job which he didn't do. Questions asked on how old he was during the second world war, the circumstances of his arrest, how long he spent in Alderney, the uniform prisoners wore, messages to his family, the nationality of other prisoners, farming he undertook, criticism of a book about the Alderney concentration camps, deaths in the camps, marches undertaken by the prisoners, hospital at the camp and the treatment of the sick and starving, what he saw of the invasion in France, the building of the camps and fortifications, treatment of the prisoners, whether he worked on the harbour, an irish worker he knew, relationships with other prisoners, how he feels now, nationality of the guards, rabbits on the island and a fellow Jersey prisoner. 13 October 1982
L/D/25/L/53 Talk by Mr Sam Renouf to the Channel Islands Occupation Society on beekeeping during the occupation. Introduction by a member of the CIOS. Talks about the Jersey Beekeepers Association which was founded during the First World War by the Société Jersiaise, the industry's development, the lessening opportunities for beekeeping now as a result of the lessening of the agriculture industry, methods of extracting honey from hives, people who used to keep bees in Jersey, starting beekeeping as a hobby after the Great War and the equipment he used, advantage of keeping bees during the occupation, how hives were made during the occupation and the improvisation was necessary, being short of beeswax, methods of encouraging bees, a great deal of stealing by german soldiers and russian prisoners of war, attempts to prevent stealing by various methods including camouflage, putting it on the roof and in somebody's bedroom, deaths of bees due to gunfire, lack of honey due to trees being cut down for fuel, his allowance of petrol, looking after other people's hives, handing over honey for hospitals and the sick in place of medicine, trees that bees like, making of mead which was kept for liberation, improvisation with food, different places that he kept bees, keeping and making crystal radio sets, requisition of tyres by the germans but Mr Renouf kept his, inspections by the germans of his vehicles, requests by the germans for honey, moving bees, supplying bees for different people, experiences of being shelled whilst fishing, getting salt from the sea at Le Fret, needing sugar for the hives, reproduction and numbers of bees, how long bees live for, what bumble bees are, the treating of wounds with honey and pollen, value of honey and pollen, his experience of a trip to Russia for a beekeeping conference and the different techniques of beekeeping in Russia. 6 January 1982
L/D/25/L/54 Talk by Mr T Riley to the Channel Islands Occupation Society. (Very faint at some points) Talks about his experiences during the occupation and the different jobs he undertook including working at George D Laurens shop in Queen Street, being called up by Theodor Elsch to help build sea walls at La Braye slip wall but refusing to work, being put into prison in Gloucester Street for not complying, given a month in prison, when he got out was put to work on the sea walls but started registering in the morning and then going home, put to work on the German Hospital in St Peter's Valley but stopped going after a rock fall, got sent down the Victoria Pier cleaning the walls of tanks but didn't want to work there either, put to work in a german store but was eventually arrested, interrogated by the police at Silvertide, Havre des Pas and was offered the choice of doing 5 months prison in France or 5 weeks solitary confinement in Jersey, decided on staying in Jersey, was classed as an 'undesirable', talks about the reduced rations they received in prison, a plan whereby he got increased rations, a job at the Homestead in Vallée des Vaux when he was released, got extra beer by delivering beer from Ann Street Brewery, getting a letter saying he was to be deported but avoiding it as his name was late in the alphabet, becoming friendly with a german he was living next to and being allowed off the next deportations, working for the States down St Helier Harbour unloading supplies, the stealing that used to take place of German goods, being arrested by the Germans for stealing and being sentenced by the local police court as it was States goods to four weeks hard labour, breaking stones in the prison, getting shingles in prison and was given light duties, got married and was living in town, got a job looking after and grave digging at the Stranger's Cemetery, got fired for only going to work every other day and pulling down a hut to burn for fuel, sent to Midvale Road to work in OT offices as a cleaner, taking fuel from the offices, picking berries from a mountain ash for his boss who lived in Clarendon Road to distill into alcohol, opening a room at the office which had a great deal of food inside and taking supplies, moved to St Brelade and worked at knocking down trees for people's fuel, used to fill bins with sea water and extracted the salt, taking weapons and binoculars from a store and looking in the bunker at La Pulente and finding a motorbike. Comments made by the audience about their dealings with the germans at the Harbour and taking food, the need for policemen as so much was being taken. Riley tells how he was caught out after curfew 52 times, he had to go to Bagatelle House to explain himself, dealing on the blackmarket for an old lady who lived in Colomberie, the ships that transported essential commodoties the SS Normand and SS Spinel their captains, the arrival of the Russian POWs, taking butter from the germans, the arrival of the SS Vega and the red cross parcels, the fact that things for babies were never touched and how they always tried to steal from the Germans. Questions asked and comments made concerning his arrests and whether it was recorded in the press, the Painters, listening to radios and an American airman who crashed and was saved by John de la Haye. 8 April 1981
L/D/25/L/55 Talk by Major Frank Sargent of the Royal Army Ordnance Corps to the Channel Islands Occupation Society on the clearing Jersey of German relics after the occupation. Talks about his pleasure at being in Jersey, explains how the RAOC is a part of the army responsible for supplying it with everything it needs apart from food, fuel and transport, the different depots that make up the RAOC, the fact that Ordnance Beach Detachments accompanied the invasion and supported them, in the summer of 1943 numbers 16 and 17 Ordnance Beach Detachments were formed of which Sargent was in no 17, assault training in Scotland, left there whilst the invasion was taking place, being posted as second in command in 16, Ordnance Beach Detachment No 16 being attached to Force 135 and renamed Force 135 Field Ordnance Depot, coming to the Channel Islands to serve the liberation forces and to clear up the German arms that were left, most of the Field Ordnance Depot going to Guernsey and Sargent volunteering to come to Jersey to sort out the local depot, being asked for a report on the situation by the Lieutenant Governor General Sir Edward Grasset in October 1945, talks about stores of german equipment at Beaumont, La Collette, Fort Regent, Springfield Stadium, The Espanade, German Underground Hospital with lists of the amount of weapons, vehicles and equipment collected, a body known as the London Munitions Assignment Board being given first call on all usable german equipment, being told to destroy all german war potential with a wish to cleanse the island, all big guns being destroyed with only some smaller guns being kept at Mont Orgueil Castle, pushing guns into the bay at Les Landes where one has now been brought up and put at Noirmont, some cut up and reused for metal, some put in tunnels in St Peter's Valley and exploded and left in there, the ammunition was loaded into tank landing craft at Gorey and St Aubin and dumped in Hurd's Deep, a deep area off the Cherbourd Peninsula, unstable ammunition blown up at St Ouen's Bay with help from german prisoners of war. Michael Ginns comments on tanks that were taken back to France, the weapons at Mont Orgueil Castle which were later presented to the Société Jersiaise and specifies where the guns were in the tunnel at St Peter's Valley. Question about some equipment that went to South Africa and the range finder at Noirmont Command Bunker. Slides being shown with Major Sargent and Michael Ginns commenting on them including remarks on the gun at Noirmont, vehicles, weapons, ammunition being blown up on the sand dunes, an accident with the ammunition, loading ammunition onto ships and at sea, Fort Regent, Les Landes and the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, guns that were blown up the tunnels in St Peter's Valley, th bunker at Corbière, Springfield, a steam roller and the Albert Pier. 19 October 1979
L/D/25/L/56 1) Interview on BBC Radio Jersey of Leslie Sinel on his life and the german occupation with musical interludes. Talks about Jersey-French and how much it was used, his school days, listening to music on crystal radios sets, school holidays coinciding with the potato season, the railway at the St Helier Harbour, joining the Evening Post, working as a printer, the printers used, the newspaper being distributed by horse and cart, 1910 the EP bought two motor cars for deliveries, using the train to deliver, what the trains were like, advent of the bus system, the tourism industry in the 1920s and 1930s and the difference to today, what he used to hear on the radio, becoming a proof reader at the EP towards the 30s, never wanting to be a journalist, the quality of newspapers today, the media in Jersey, his voluntary work he undertook as a constable's officer in St Saviour, a churchwarden in St Helier, being on the Welfare Board, the Burial Board and on the Battle of Flowers Committee and involved in the Eisteddfod, his work as an honorary policeman and his view on the police system as a whole, standing on duty at Government House when the queen visited, his desire to stay in the island, the parochial nature of the island, the JMT opening up the island, when cars became more common in the island, keeping a record of the occupation period, feelings when occupation was approaching, the demilitaristion of the island, the question of resistance and the impossibility of sabotage on the island, the guilt complex of not going to war, the dilemma of whether to evacuate, working under the germans at the newspaper throughout the occupation, censorship, necessary cooperation with the german forces, the trouble he got into at the newspaper, the scarcity of food, working for a farmer to get extra rations, learned how to make sugar beet and potato flour, trying to get hold of meat, listening to the BBC on his crystal radio set, the dissemination of news, using the german censor to gain information, his feelings at liberation, life since the war and on retirement, enjoys writing about historical and local events, would have liked to have been a teacher but looks back on life with no regrets. 2) Radio programme with people commenting on Lord Haw Haw's broadcasts and other radio programmes that were broadcast during the second world war by the Germans and by other nations in Europe. 23 May 1982
L/D/25/L/57 1) Programme entitled 'Summer 1940-Part One: The Distant War June 1st-19th' broadcast by Channel Television presented by Alastair Layzell. It covers the beginning of June 1940 when Britain had been at war for 9 months, peoplewere being encouraged to spend time in the Channel Islands but the war took a dramatic turn with the Germans pushing through Europe, background given on the Channel Islands, in Guernsey 1940 the bailiff was Victor Carey who was elderly and so Ambrose Sherwill, the attorney general, was given the job of running the island whilst Alexander Coutanche was in charge in Jersey. The Lieutenant Governor of Jersey Major General Harrison wrote to the War Office saying the island was virtually defenceless, uncertainty of what to do, some air raid precautions had been taken with the establishment of the Air Raid Patrol, everyone was issued with gas masks, realisation that war was on its way to the islands. On the morning of June 12th the War Cabinet decided to defend the islands but reversed the decision by the afternoon deciding on demilitarisation, the first contact with war was the evacuation of the British Expeditionary Force from St Malo. Islanders were asked to assemble yachts and Coutanche and the Commodore of St Helier Yacht Club W S Le Masurier organised crews to picking up the troops including Reg Nicolle and Bill Coom who talk of the enthusiasm for the operation, the blowing up of the loch gates, french citizens offering money to get on the ships, the courage of british nurses refusing to leave their ambulances and the terrible weather on the way home. Extract from Churchill speech telling about the situation in France. Activity at the airport with planes refuelling, Jersey Airways suspending services and helping the RAF, evacuating the staff and Charles de Gaulle refuelling in the island. War and Home Office still talking and life went on in Jersey. The Home Office invited islands to send a representative to England to discuss the possible evacuation of the islands. Jurat Edgar Dorey was sent and he and Markbreiter called the Ministry of Shipping in search of boats and when returning was given a letter telling the Lieutenant Governor to leave. The decision to demiltarise was announced in the States and the evacuation was to begin. 2) Programme called 'Summer 1940-Part 2: Evacuation June 20th-28th' broadcast by Channel Television presented by Alastair Layzell. References to the dilemma of evacuation, queuing to register at the Town Hall and the fact people changed their minds, the calming of the people by the Bailiff who said his family were staying and condemnation by Jurat Dorey for those leaving. Evacuees tell of their journey to Southampton and then to the north of England. The St John Ambulance in Guernsey helped with the sick and old. In Sark Dame Sybil Hathaway encouraged the inhabitants to stay on the island. In Alderney Judge Frederick French called a meeting where his residents decided to leave. George Baron tells of leaving on the spur of the moment and the St John Ambulance personnel from Guernsey went to Alderney to assist in the evacuation. Some of the evacuation was carried out by Jersey Airways as the airport was besieged by people trying to leave. There was a calm after the lieutenant governors left. At the Jersey Airport Bob Lawrence talks of breaking up the navigation equipment and sending it to Southampton. The Controlling Committee was set up in Guernsey and a member, Raymond Falla, talks about the evacuation of cattle from Alderney. On June 28th undecided whether the islands were defended the germans undertook air raids and eye witnesses describe seeing the air raids in Jersey and Guernsey leading to 44 deaths, 33 in Guernsey, 11 in Jersey. The BBC announced that day that the Channel Islands had been demilitarised ten days before but it was too late. 19 June 1980 -
26 June 1980
L/D/25/L/58 1) Programme entitled 'Summer 1940-Part Three: Occupation June 29th-July 5th' broadcast by Channel Television presented by Alastair Layzell. Talks about the effect the air raid had on the islanders, the fact that the air raid confirmed to the Germans fact that the islands were undefended, the population being in fear of more air raids, Philip Warder, who wroked for the Post Office, waiting for instructions to sever the cable between Jersey and England, the Guernsey Controlling Committee running island and Raymond Falla talking about his experiences, the landing of the Germans in Guernsey on June 30th and met by Ambrose Sherwill, proclamations being put up and anger at Raymond Falla because cows were on the runway at Guernsey Airport, July 1st the Germans invaded Jersey and dropped an ultimatum which was taken to the bailiff, it told that white flags had to put up, the States agreed to comply, an aeroplane landed at the Jersey Airport the next day and sent a message that the island was to be occupied fom 3pm that day when the bailiff, government secretary and attorney general met the Germans, Leslie Sinel went to cinema at The Forum and when he came out Germans were walking on the streets, the Germans soon looked at the essential services, at the Post Office Philip Warder was arrested for no reason and offered resistance for the rest of war by destroying letters sent to the commandant and the Evening Post came under the eyes of the german censor. First impressions of the german soldiers was them buying up of goods from shops. Jack Herbert took germans to the generating station at the airport and had to watch as Germans defused bombs left at the airport, tomato growers realised their income had stopped, the Controlling Committee took the glass houses over to plant other crops, Alderney was taken over and headquarters were established, July 4th a party crossed to Sark and met with Sybil Hathaway showing her respect but brought her list of orders. Captain Gussek was the first commandant and with him Coutanche worked out a proclamation for the local government to continue. Overall the Germans were friendly, morale was high and they believed the islands were a stepping stone to England. 2) A brief account of the German Occupation of Jersey from the BBC Schools Broadcast produced in Jersey by Joe Jackson and Graham Simms. Report on the origins and development of the second world war. July 1st 1940 occupation of Jersey begins. The responsibility for the island was on Sir Alexander Moncrieff Coutanche and the programme shows how he shouldered the burden. He remembers the arrival of the Germans and the affect it had on his position in the islands. Bob Le Sueur remembers the uncertainty and the speech by the bailiff in the Royal Square giving instructions to fly the white flag. Mrs Perkins remembers Germans bombing the harbour and their arrival with the orders received by the islanders. They remember Germans thinking they could get to London very easily, the introduction of a curfew, the surprise at the discipline of the Germans, the scarcity of money and schemes to raise some, the scarcity of food and improvisation with different ingredients. A poem written during the occupation about the scarcity of food is sung. After D-Day food supplies were cut off and after protests from the governments the red cross ship the SS Vega arrived. The liberation came with the arrival of the HMS Beagle and Coutanche got a message to go to the Pomme d'Or Hotel from where he was taken to the ship to witness the surrender. The programme looks at his life before and after the occupation and the award of his knighthood and peerage. 7 November 1974 -
3 July 1980
L/D/25/L/60 A programme called 'Occupation Walks' on BBC Radio Jersey recording of the story of a man deported to Wurzach, Michael Ginns, and a 17 year old survivor of Belsen that he met, Irvine van Gelder. 1) Part 1: Back story of the second world war and occupation in Jersey culminating with the deportations in 1942 when Michael Ginns with other non Jersey born islanders were transported to Biberach for six weeks and then on to Wurzach. Michael Ginns talks of why the deportations took place and why he was deported, the conditions in Wurzach, receiving red cross parcels, life in and the set up at Wurzach and where it lay in Germany. Irvine van Gelder was an American Jew living in Holland who saw German anti-Semitic legislation first hand. He talks of the restrictions placed on their life, being told to be ready to be transported to a camp with an hours notice, being threatened with deportation a number of times but being saved by his father's nationality, being sent to Camp Westerburg in Holland, the terrible conditions in the camp, ending up in the camp at Bergen Belsen, being sent there on the train and put in barracks, where it is situated, being forced to work as slaves and being punished if not productive enough, the terrible conditions, being kept at starving point on tiny rations, ill treatment of prisoners resulting in death from starvation and disease and bodies being burned in a crematorium and the impressions the camp had on van Gelder. Michael Ginns talks about life being fairly easy in comparison in Wurzach, regular inspections by the Protecting Powers, it being hard for the elderly and those with young children, not realising what was occurring in the rest of Germany and the problem of boredom in the camp. In Belsen Irvine van Gelder remembers reaching the end of his strength and being put in hospital, he didn't want to live any more and was told that he had only another week to live. 2) Part 2: Recap of the previous weeks story. Events took another turn. Van Gelder tells how he heard there was a transport leaving Bergen Belsen with those Jews of english and american nationality and he and his family decided they had to leave despite his illness, taken to Wurzach on a passenger train, a lorry took them to the schloss at Wurzach where internees Mr Spencer and Mr Hickman put van Gelder in a bath, got him new clothes and put him in a bed with clean sheets. Michael Ginns watched the Jews arrive and appreciated how different their circumstances were, feelings of pity and sorrow, people gave food and clothing to them, once they had been deloused became integrated into camp life. Van Gelder remembers help from islanders which finally brought him back to health, he only weighed 69lbs when he arrived at 17 years old, he finds the difference between Wurzach and Belsen impossible to describe, remembers the red cross parcels, getting his strength back and later playing football and cutting wood, he still feels close to Jersey people, his best friend in Wurzach was a boy called Richard Tucker. Ginns remembers the delousing of the Jews' clothes. Van Gelder will never forget liberation, had followed the campaign on BBC radio, they were liberated by French troops who didn't know it was an internment camp. Michael Ginns missed out on liberation as he had been repatriated back to England through Germany, Denmark and Sweden. Van Gelder talks about seeing Schindler's List which captured the horror of concentration camp life, the only difference being the smell of the camp and the victims had too much meat on their bodies. 8 February 1999 -
15 February 1999
L/D/25/L/64 Mr Ted Syvret of Leoville Farm, St Ouen talking to the CIOS about his memories on growing up on the family farm during the occupation. Talks about the diary kept by his father, the position of Léoville in St Ouen, bunkers in St Ouen, the farm at Léoville and its history, position, size, crops, livestock and buildings, the Syvret family living on the farm, speaking Jersey french, the neighbourhood, work of the farming community and the sharing of work, his background, his childhood years, comparison with granddaughter today, decision of family to stay in Jersey bfore the occupation, explanation of his father's diaries and reads some extracts from Easter 1942, seeing german soldiers for the first time and on parade, hearing aeroplanes during the night, taking potatoes to town, the air raid on the harbour, work on the stables, attempted trench digging in front garden of property by the germans, beginning of the felling of trees for fuel, working with hay, everything agricultural being done by hand, keeping food aside for people, collecting wheat, using the lawn to plant tobacco, placing alarms on the pantry to stop OT labourers stealing food, slaughtering of a cow, self sufficiency in vegetables, the growing and use of sugarbeet and potato flour, making butter, collecting rabbit food, hatching of chicks, improvisations when farming, pumping water in the back garden and the use of an outside toilet, entertainment for the children looking for spent ammunition, St Ouen's Central School, the school air raid shelter, diseases at school, comparison between town and country, stamps received from Ralph Mollet, a British aeroplane flying over and firing taking place requiring them to take shelter, D-Day activity, 14th June 1944 a plane going down, travelling with his father to visit his grandparents, collecting the red cross parcels and the difference between the parcels, the unfinished railway track that ran through some of the fields, guns and german soldiers at Greve de Lecq, the appearance of swastikas and german road signs, liberation, listening to the radio at George Baudain's house, being told to lower the flag as it was raised too early, May 8th his father's diary stopped with 'Jerry surrenders-no more work this week', going to town to celebrate the liberation, arrival of the british troops and he reads a report by B C Le Masurier, secretary to the St Ouen's Agricultural Society, on the liberation. Questions on the clothes and shoes worn by children during the occupation and improvisations used, an explosion at Commercial Buildings at liberation, memories of the German agricultural inspections, a german officer, transport to St Martin and Trinity and growing tobacco. Announcement about the making of a documentary film on the occupation. 10 April 2002
L/D/25/L/65 Francisco Font talking to the Channel Island Occupation Society [Jersey] about when he was arrested during the second world war in France and was sent to La Rochelle and then to Jersey with 1500 other Republican Spaniards. He had been living in exile in France since Franco had come to power. He was kept in various camps including at Fort Regent and Lager Immelmann. He was sent to Alderney in October 1943 with 5 other Spaniards including Pascual Pomar, because when at a camp in Gorey a Spainiard who was delivering bread threw a loaf of bread to him and german soldiers saw him hiding something and he said he'd stolen it. He was beaten up by German OT's and taken back to camp and was then taken to Fort Regent and then taken to Guernsey for 4 or 5 days and was then sent to Alderney. He was put in Lager Alderney No 2, remained in Alderney until 2 days after d-day when he was taken to Guernsey. He remembers being fed in Guernsey, with Raymond Falla trying to give them food but the germans made him throw it in and feed them like dogs. He was then taken to Jersey and was going to be transported to France but because of d-day remained in Jersey till the end of the war. He told the british authorities what heppened to them on liberation day at a joint British/Soviet enquiry at the British Hotel. Alderney asked for details of people being kept in a tunnel in the camp for 15 to 20 minutes, all Jewish prisoners. Describing atrocities whilst working at the harbour, saw Societ POWs working without shoes on, one russian was using paper bags on feet for shoes when a German SS shot him through the head. Remembers seeing a British bomber crashing near to Alderney but the german soldiers didn't find any surviving British soldiers. At Lager Sylt he saw a russian being hung for stealing bread. Describes their treatment and the occasion that a german soldier called everyone together for christmas and told them they had cards for christmas and then threw them on the fire. Lager Sylt-the different uniforms the prisoners wore. Talks of the food they had-'cabbage soup without cabbage'. Describes the amount of food they ate, the hours that they worked, the guards in the camp, the ordinary prisoners talking to those from Lager Sylt, conversations they had with other prisoners, russians jumping into the sea after rubbish had been thrown in to get food and then got beaten by guards. He never saw prisoners being thrown into the sea. Remembers a Chinese prisoner in the camp. He describes the huts in the camp and the conditions they lived in, the clothes that they wore, infestations of lice, illness in the camp and treatment. Remembering the doctors including Dr Dreyfus. He discusses the French women with the Germans but cannot remember them from a photograph that he was shown. He is asked about the escape of a prisoner from Lager Sylt and his eventual capture and death, volunteers from Belgium. Talks of being liberated in Jersey, then in September 1945 being taken to Guernsey by the British with the intention of being returned to France. He had met his future wife, Kathleen Fox, in Jersey and she came to Guernsey. They decided to get married in Guernsey but an application was refused. When they were liberated from Guernsey he asked his friends to answer his name at the roll call and hid for two days after they left and then presented himself to the authorities. Talked to Major Cotton who gave him money to send a telegram to Kathleen's father to ask permission to marry his daughter. He went to the Greffe in Guernsey to get married and got married after a week. He stayed in Guernsey until 1951 as Jersey authorities refused to let him come back and work in Jersey. In 1950 he became a British subject and was allowed to come to Jersey and has been in Jersey ever since. He still visits Alderney every year to pay tribute to the people who died and does not happy memories of his days in Alderney.