Digital copy of the Transcript of Part 1 of a Tape Recorded Interview with Witness 125 in the States of Jersey Police Special Suite, St Helier in the presence of Detective Constable Michael Pick, Detective Constable Corin Barker (Observer/Camera Operator) and an observer. [Some details redacted].

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February 13th 2008 - February 13th 2008

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Starts with Michael Pick outlining his background as a Detective from Nottinghamshire Police with 30 years' experience dealing with victims of child abuse, murders and serious offences, referring to his retirement in 2003. Includes a discussion about Witness 125's background, including comments about his mother and father. Refers to regular contact with his mother and desertion of father before Witness 125 was born. Includes discussion about Haut de la Garenne, referring to its use as a children's home and location in St Martin. States to have been placed in Haut de la Garenne as a young child aged 6 or 7, spending numerous spells there between placements in foster homes. Witness 125 unable to recall who placed him in Haut de la Garenne. Refers to lack of contact with siblings, stating that they did not go to Haut de la Garenne. Recalls that Haut de la Garenne was ran by Mr Thompson [Jim Thomson] when he was a resident, noting that he has since died. Also recalls other members of staff including Tony Jordan. Also includes recollections of other children in residence, including families. Includes discussion about life at Haut de la Garenne. Refers to suffering from a medical condition which caused him to be enuretic. States that he was caned as punishment for enuresis, noting that he was admitted to Hospital as a result. Recalls running away from Haut de la Garenne numerous times, stating that he would be returned to Haut de la Garenne by police and thrown into a cell as punishment. Refers to the cell as a dungeon. Recalls that there were two cells, noting that other residents would also be placed in the cells. States that he was caned by three senior members of staff including Mr [Thomson]. Includes a description of the cane used, stating that he was hit on his bare skin 6 to 10 times on numerous occasions. Recalls that there were four groups at Haut de la Garenne named Dunluce, Claymore, Baintree and Aviemore. Recalls running away with other residents, going as far as Gorey, recalling one incident where another resident decided to hitchhike but was caught by Police in the process. States that he and other residents ran away because they did not like the way the way they were treated, citing caning. Describes incident where he was pushed into stinging nettles by a member of staff at Haut de la Garenne. Also recalls incident when he was aged 10 or 11 where Tony Jordan held him under water for a long period of time in the swimming pool, mentioning another child who witnessed the incident. Notes that he managed to get out of the situation after intervention by another individual. Recalls that Mr Jordan worked in the group that he was placed. Tape ends for a break. [For the Transcripts of Parts 2 and 3 of this Tape Recorded Interview with Witness 125, see C/D/AW1/A3/6/2/11/WD002192 and C/D/AW1/A3/6/2/11/WD002192].


Barker, Corin, Detective Constable
Jordan, Tony
Pick, Michael, Civilian Investigator
Thomson, Jim
Haut de la Garenne
Nottinghamshire Police
Operation Rectangle
States of Jersey Police


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